Hooligans

I believe a curious case of “Warrior-or-Pillager?” can be found in the figure of the Hooligan.

Figure 1.1


I will start by explaining the two most common representations of the Hooligan. First, and perhaps most widely known, is the crazy football (as in soccer) fan; what I will call a Type-1 Hooligan. This group has a violent and uncontrolled manner of fighting which involves the breaching of security fencing, annihilation of event security, and eventual confrontation of rival factions. Though this sounds more like the routine of a Pillager, I argue that they are Warriors. This is simply because they fight for nothing other than the spirit and support of their team (and perhaps slightly because of beer). Their dress is most often a shirtless painted torso, painted face, and jeans or warm-up pants. Ocassional accesories may include flags draped over the shoulder and/or a pint of beer in a plastic cup (see figure 1.1).

Figure 1.2


Continuing on, I will now explain what I call a Type-2 Hooligan (figure 1.2). These Hooligans are most often Irish men between the ages of 12 and 36. Their behaviors include bar fighting, breaking windows with rocks or bricks, theft, bullying, impregnation of girlfriends at inappropriate times, and boxing. Their dress generally consists of dirty jeans or wool pants, grey sweaters and turtlenecks, pierced ears (left ones only), and scarred eyebrows. Footwear varies between combat boots (or very high Doc Martins), converse high tops, and old running shoes. Hats are either skullcaps (a.k.a. beanies) or newsboy caps.

Now here is an interesting thought. This group of hooligans is, in my opinion, a class of Pillager. This is because they act out of greed and general maliciousness. At no time do they commit an altruistic act (unless they are sucking up to someone such as a parent or teacher to get away with a minor crime). This brings me to my next point: I believe altruism is a key factor in the analysis of Warriors and Pillagers. I challenge anyone to think of a Pillager that acts in an altruistic manner, or vice versa.

So to sum up my entry, here is a simple breakdown of my argument…

1. There are two subcategories of Hooligans: Type 1 and Type 2.
2. Type 1 Hooligans are Warriors and Type 2 Hooligans are Pillagers.
3. Within the larger category of Hooligan we find both Warrior and Pillager.
4. Altruism may be a universal factor in the distinction between Warrior and Pillager.

Is this simply a case of two groups who incorrectly share a name? Or do people refer to both groups by the same name because the line between Warrior and Pillager is so faint in this circumstance? And, could this be because they do not view altruism as an important factor in the distinction between Warrior and Pillager?

- T Henry Barth

Ninja Parade

Ninja Parade Slips Through Town Unnoticed Once Again

Blake gets credit for finding this.

Robots vs. Pirates

I know this is a variation from the epic struggle between pirates and ninjas, but I figured it was close enough.  Robots would do nicely to complete the Trinity.  This is the Protector, an autonomous machine gun armed boat that is set to hunt down the pirates of the world's oceans.  The US Navy and Coast Guard could have a big hit on their hands.  The article was not clear as to whether or not a ninja transport version was on the way.  (via)

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The Master Mind

I have come up with an interesting question. In my quest to find out a true example of "The Cross-Over Situation." My initial example of a cross over would be Saruman, from The Lord of the Rings. He was initially a powerful wizard that was Cheif of all the wizards in Middle Earth. He was a fair leader, and a powerful wizard. Certainly a warrior. He developed an obsession with the one ring that was forged by the Dark Lord, and when he heard of its possible resurgence, began to build an army to pillage all of the surrounding areas to find the ring, or any information about the ring. When I say pillage, I mean that he destroyed parts of Fangorn Forrest, and burned villages in Rohan. His mind was perverted by the ring, and he lost his original focus for his role as the White Wizard (which was a position that Gandalf "Mithrander" Stormcrow had to take). My thought is this...did he turn into a pillager even though he was brought up as a warrior?

Further inspection of this matter gave me much trouble. The criminal "Mater Mind" if you will, takes a back seat approach, and can be trained like a warrior...however, they are driven by typical motives that would require a Pillaging fighting style and life style.

Also, what is to become of the millitary man that becomes a criminal for hire? He had formal training and was once a true warrior, but now...he scavenges for an extra buck. Can there be some morality to the fighting style/life style...or is Saruman still a warrior, despite his motives and actions later in his wasted life?

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Big Question Sereis #1

Why can the warrior both be a warrior and pillage during the act of war (like Genghis Kahn and his warriors) and can a warrior that pillages pillage enough to the point where he is no longer a warrior but a pillager?

What about Robin Hood?

According to Trey, a pillager cannot be good (see the response on sharks). However, Robin Hood pillaged from the rich to give to the poor, which I think we'd all agree is very valiant and a good deed. He also seemed to follow a higher moral code, so was he a warrior or a rare good pillager?

The Cross-Over Situation

There are some situations where a pillager can cross over to a warrior, and visa versa, however this site goes to show (in my opinion) that there are no situations where someone can be both at the same time. There is a neutral situation, where someone can be neither a warrior or a pillager. These are the only three possible categories.

Take the Ewoks. They were neutral, but were forced to become warriors. Let's hope they don't decide to pillage, because anyone that can take down the Emperial assult scares me. They have strength in numbers...much like zombies.

What about Prospectors?

Prospectors show attributes of both categories. They are smart, sneaky, sly, and skilled like warriors. However, they are also crazed, lustful, angry at the world, infected with gold lust, and destroy everything in their path. Prospectors are more complex characters then you thought!
-Peter "Ol' Pete" Barth

Welcome to Warrior vs. Pillager

The purpose of this blog is to provide a space for the now classic debate of Pirate vs. Ninja (started by Trey Barth and Blake Michelson about 6 years ago, seriously). However, our goal is not to continue the sophomoric argument of whether a Pirate or a Ninja would win in a fight, but to expand on the theory; to raise the dialogue to a new level that questions the very nature of warfare, survival, and existence as we know it.

To explain further, Blake and I have decided that pirates and ninjas fall into two larger, more encompassing categories: Warriors and Pillagers. Warriors, spearheaded by the Ninja, encompass any type of fighter who is tactically trained, methodical, and follows (to some degree) a higher order of justice, honor, or dedication to a greater entity. Pillagers, flagshipped by Pirates, include any person/creature/animal that is not trained through method and order, but through blood, rage, greed, infections, etc.

As an example, I will demonstrate a simple and brief classification; Robots and most Aliens are Warriors, Ghouls and Bandits are Pillagers.

People who become authors on this page are also allowed, and encouraged, to establish examples of new Warriors and Pillagers by posting pictures/videos, giving descriptions and facts, and classifying said individual.

And now to start off the discussions...

Are sharks Warriors or Pillagers?